So, have we not been informed enough about what chokeholds can do? How insistent were the other passengers that Penny abandon his chokehold after Neely no longer posed a threat? Forgive my vehemence, but I think that Black lives, particularly Black male lives, are of so little value, that people will peacefully stand by and watch someone being murdered under the guise of "prevention" or "protection." I wasn't on that subway car. But all 4-11" of me has intervened when I have seen violence in play. Penny should have been stopped by others, and if I were on that jury, even given the information that you shared here, I might have found differently than that jury.