Wow. I liked that episode so much I had to watch it twice. Despite Ari's pressing him, Navarro continued talking at warp speed to make his "talking points, aka, lies. Boris Epshtyn then tried to follow his lead, talking fast and insisting that they BELIEVED they were right, so any action they took was legal. The third guy, at least, brought his lawyer.

Ari and Rachel are my go-tos. If you want to hear the right questions, then they'll ask them.